"It only takes a spark to get a fire going."

topic posted Wed, March 30, 2005 - 10:16 PM by  Unsubscribed
Scenario: You're on a first date. The guy or girl sitting across the table from you at Starbuck's* seems nice enough and you have plenty to talk about, but you just don't feel any...sparks. You can't even imagine kissing him or her at the end of the evening.

Questions:

* How important are sparks?
* Is it reasonable to expect them on a first date?
* Can they be consciously generated?

Denise

* I used Starbuck's because I have had *so* many first dates there. In fact, that's the only time I ever go to Starbuck's.
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  • Re: "It only takes a spark to get a fire going."

    Thu, March 31, 2005 - 7:30 AM
    I've been thinking about what you said and there are two ways to look at it. Why waste your time going on a date with someone you really have no interest in? Or just give them a try and you might find you like them later.

    I feel the whole purpose of dating is to find out more about eachother. Then you can determine if it's love at first sight or just not what you want.

    Personally I don't like to go out on dates. Dating is boring to me. I'd rather take a guy out as a friend first and do totally random and awesome things like road trips, and amusement parks, or camping. I think when you are having positive fun and ocassional talks to the side the sparks may start flying. I think this is how you may consiously generate these feeling is when you are being yourself and enjoying life, not second guessing if they are right for you. That stuff is a waste of energy and time in your life. I think it is important to find more about the person even if the sparks start flying at first you never know how things will end up if ya don't do your homework. :)

    Sitting at Starbucks and talking seems a little nerve wracking. Although some people may like that kind of dating.

    Jenna :)
    • Re: "It only takes a spark to get a fire going."

      Thu, March 31, 2005 - 9:53 AM
      I think you can make sparks up consciously, but it's like lying to yourself. I've had them happen on a first date and never again; I can't remember them happening after a first date, because if they didn't happen then I didn't really try for them afterward.

      I think they're necessary... otherwise, everyone would be platonic friends, right?

      As for me, I think Starbucks is a good place to stop on a date, like after a movie. While I love a chai frappucino, it's not the greatest conversation starter...
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      The Dating Game

      Thu, March 31, 2005 - 11:10 AM
      Jenna wrote: "Personally I don't like to go out on dates. Dating is boring to me."

      And at *my* age, the process is nothing less than excruciating. This is why I have JUST ABOUT given up on Internet dating, which, I have concluded, is an unnatural way to meet someone.

      On the other hand, as a shy, housebound agoraphobic, I can't come up with any other ways of meeting men without leaving the house! I know, I know, I will have to do so eventually. Well-meaning people suggest social organizations such as Parents Without Partners, but I can't imagine that the type of man I'm seeking (a kinky man who has style, edge, and intelligence and is perhaps a bit goth) would belong to such an organization. *sigh*

      I remain a big fan of the epistolary romance.

      Denise

      P. S. One reason that my ex-husband and I are good friends (even though the marriage didn't work out) is that we travel very well together -- especially on roadtrips!
  • Re: "It only takes a spark to get a fire going."

    Thu, March 31, 2005 - 2:33 PM
    well, I am bad... I give everyone 3 chances!

    plus I am involved in enough local happenings that I like to meet somewhere and have a good time... e.g. drum circle, lifestyle meeting, pagan campout, etc...

    I think that sparks do happen but too many times on one side of the relationship or at best, to both... but at different times

    yes, you can set yourself up for 'success' but as I was telling someone the other night, I feel that when it comes naturally it feels better, i.e. without planning, just happens

    but I will meet a minimum of 3 times if either one of us pursues the relationship...

    maybe I'm compensating for not responding all the time; women have told me didn't you know and I say Kinda but didn't want to push the issue... like I can have great friends and not take it anywhere if neither of us pushes the issue
  • Re: "It only takes a spark to get a fire going."

    Thu, March 31, 2005 - 5:53 PM
    sparks are pretty important i'd say. i;ve been on plenty of dates and not had sparks and things just seem to fizzle out for me.

    i think it's plenty reasonable to expect them on the first date if you had that kind of attraction to begin with. -
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    When it rains, it pours -- and the fire goes out.

    The Friday before last, I had a first date with a guy I met through a local dating website. (I *hate* first dates!) He took me out to dinner. Afterwards, we browsed in Barnes & Noble and then went to Dunkin' Donuts for several cups of coffee. He showered me with birthday presents. The date *seemed* to go well (after all, we talked for 7-1/2 hours!), but then again, I knew not to hold my breath. Very rarely do I date a guy more than four times before I realize how annoying he is and that I would rather be alone! That said, this seemed at first to be the most "promising" of first dates that I have had in quite some time. However, I was concerned that the guy appeared to be straddling the line between "eager" and "desperate".

    I had the second date last Thursday. (I was never so happy for an afternoon dentist appointment, which gave me reason to kick him out at 5:15!) While he didn't use the L word in conversation, he spoke about "us" as if we were already a couple, and he even used the M word in passing (that's right, marriage). He then sent me several e-mail messages to tell me that he missed me. I thought of writing back and quoting some song lyrics -- some old Simon & Garfunkel -- "Slow down, you move too fast..."

    Between yesterday and today, he sent me four e-mail messages and left me two messages on my answering machine. He wanted to know if he could stop by tonight and hang out for a few hours. (It's my first week at a new job, and I am *very* stressed. And it's already passed my bedtime.) I know that if I play this right, I could probably get *anything* I want out of this relationship. But I don't know if I want to.

    What a paradox.

    Denise
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      Ouch...he does sound a tad desperate. But maybe something can be salvaged, if he's willing to move a little slower?
      Congrats again on the job, Denise--I'm sure you'll settle into it very soon :)
      • Oh, don't you hate getting what you wish for...?!

        There was a tribe member on one of my tribes who is so deep, kind, sweet, etc..and BTW ..HOT. I thought to myself "now wouldn't it be awesome if HE were interested in me?"
        A month later, out of the blue, he PMed a greeting followed by daily ...sumptous , erotic letters. I found myself straddled between heaven and hell! After all...we don't really know each other, we are a thousand miles apart ...and I am not free to cyber date... sob.
        (BTW at the same time, another tribe member was sending creepy , icky letters ...oh damn. BUT Another member sends sweet, friendly loving and platonically flirty letters ! I feel like Goldilocks!)

        Good luck Denise. I hope you can find some balance ...and love !

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